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		<title>By: Saul Nadata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul Nadata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Paper

Whoever you are,
your paper landed by my doorstep today,
all wrapped up in anonymous plastic,
full of tidbits on personal investing,
with an interesting wine column written for laymen,
and with a comprehensive breakdown 
of the summer movies.

The lead article announced the four agents of change
in this election season,
like apocalyptic horsemen but in a mildly optimistic way,
with a four-spread picture to bring it home:
three fat white men,
jovial and apple-cheeked as the Brady brunch,
and Barack Obama in the bottom right corner, 
looking cross and vaguely ashamed
from beneath the fold.

I didn’t want your paper 
but I read it straight through,
from the cover article on union regulations
to the end page piece about how Bernake’s tone 
might signify the end of Fed rate cuts,
partly because my paper never came
but also, in a sense, because it was yours,
because you were denied it,
and because I didn’t want to seem ungrateful
for something you may have loved.

Still.
I hope you got my paper instead.
I really do.

I hope you were puzzled by the mix up,
the way I was, at first flipping between the pages
in a state of frank disbelief,
always expecting the next fold to reveal 
the familiar font and column width,
and the viewpoints that assure you
that you are part of something worthwhile,
and underappreciated, and smart.

I hope you read it through, too,
from the cover article on middle school testing
to the tiny section buried beneath the editorials
called This Rural Life,
almost unnoticeable but so good,
a scant two or three paragraphs at most
and only printed one day a week,
just a blurb in which someone who has given up
the bluster and complications of the city expounds,
in a quiet way, about the awe one feels
upon waking up on a farm,
or finding a dead sparrow by the lake.

Saul Nadatas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://featuredpoems.blogspot.com/2008/05/your-paper-redux.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Your Paper (redux)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Paper</p>
<p>Whoever you are,<br />
your paper landed by my doorstep today,<br />
all wrapped up in anonymous plastic,<br />
full of tidbits on personal investing,<br />
with an interesting wine column written for laymen,<br />
and with a comprehensive breakdown<br />
of the summer movies.</p>
<p>The lead article announced the four agents of change<br />
in this election season,<br />
like apocalyptic horsemen but in a mildly optimistic way,<br />
with a four-spread picture to bring it home:<br />
three fat white men,<br />
jovial and apple-cheeked as the Brady brunch,<br />
and Barack Obama in the bottom right corner,<br />
looking cross and vaguely ashamed<br />
from beneath the fold.</p>
<p>I didn’t want your paper<br />
but I read it straight through,<br />
from the cover article on union regulations<br />
to the end page piece about how Bernake’s tone<br />
might signify the end of Fed rate cuts,<br />
partly because my paper never came<br />
but also, in a sense, because it was yours,<br />
because you were denied it,<br />
and because I didn’t want to seem ungrateful<br />
for something you may have loved.</p>
<p>Still.<br />
I hope you got my paper instead.<br />
I really do.</p>
<p>I hope you were puzzled by the mix up,<br />
the way I was, at first flipping between the pages<br />
in a state of frank disbelief,<br />
always expecting the next fold to reveal<br />
the familiar font and column width,<br />
and the viewpoints that assure you<br />
that you are part of something worthwhile,<br />
and underappreciated, and smart.</p>
<p>I hope you read it through, too,<br />
from the cover article on middle school testing<br />
to the tiny section buried beneath the editorials<br />
called This Rural Life,<br />
almost unnoticeable but so good,<br />
a scant two or three paragraphs at most<br />
and only printed one day a week,<br />
just a blurb in which someone who has given up<br />
the bluster and complications of the city expounds,<br />
in a quiet way, about the awe one feels<br />
upon waking up on a farm,<br />
or finding a dead sparrow by the lake.</p>
<p>Saul Nadatas last blog post..<a href="http://featuredpoems.blogspot.com/2008/05/your-paper-redux.html" rel="nofollow">Your Paper (redux)</a></p>
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		<title>By: What is a Stanza? &#124; Writer's Resource Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>What is a Stanza? &#124; Writer's Resource Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Nissen-Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Nissen-Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, quite right too. Very subversive, disreputable stuff, poetry ... one hopes.

Thanks for the rescue. xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, quite right too. Very subversive, disreputable stuff, poetry &#8230; one hopes.</p>
<p>Thanks for the rescue. xx</p>
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		<title>By: John Hewitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I did post my contribution here, but it hasn’t shown up yet. I’ll resist for a day or two the temptation to repost - as that sometimes results in two copies going up! If anyone’s impatient to see it, click on my name to see my MySpace profile; it’s in that blog as well.

-- Rescued!

Sorry, poetry for some reason gives my spam filter fits.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I did post my contribution here, but it hasn’t shown up yet. I’ll resist for a day or two the temptation to repost &#8211; as that sometimes results in two copies going up! If anyone’s impatient to see it, click on my name to see my MySpace profile; it’s in that blog as well.</p>
<p>&#8211; Rescued!</p>
<p>Sorry, poetry for some reason gives my spam filter fits.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Nissen-Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Nissen-Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I did post my contribution here, but it hasn&#039;t shown up yet. I&#039;ll resist for a day or two the temptation to repost - as that sometimes results in two copies going up! If anyone&#039;s impatient to see it, click on my name to see my MySpace profile; it&#039;s in that blog as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I did post my contribution here, but it hasn&#8217;t shown up yet. I&#8217;ll resist for a day or two the temptation to repost &#8211; as that sometimes results in two copies going up! If anyone&#8217;s impatient to see it, click on my name to see my MySpace profile; it&#8217;s in that blog as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Nissen-Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Nissen-Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks. I liked the experience of meditating before writing, so I have done that again - in a different location, with very different results. Is seems to me the exercises I&#039;ve done so far have produced some freeing up!


THE MEDITATION

Let there be silence
let there be darkness
and in that darkness peace
and in that silence peace
no word
no light
All Void
the Nothing.

In that nothing
what is the something that observes
the being of nothing
the No Thing?
Upon this question
my eyes open
to observe the world
of sight and sound.

My gaze falls immediately
on a tree, feathery acacia
fluttering in the breeze,
leaves reaching sideways
in clumps as flat as plates
but moving, rippling.
The tall fronds of the palm beyond it
prance and bow.

And noises resume.
Cars on the road over there
changing speed around the bend.
A man&#039;s voice talking 
as he strolls, 
tiny phone cupped to his ear.
The sudden loud tick of my watch.
Anonymous insects buzzing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks. I liked the experience of meditating before writing, so I have done that again &#8211; in a different location, with very different results. Is seems to me the exercises I&#8217;ve done so far have produced some freeing up!</p>
<p>THE MEDITATION</p>
<p>Let there be silence<br />
let there be darkness<br />
and in that darkness peace<br />
and in that silence peace<br />
no word<br />
no light<br />
All Void<br />
the Nothing.</p>
<p>In that nothing<br />
what is the something that observes<br />
the being of nothing<br />
the No Thing?<br />
Upon this question<br />
my eyes open<br />
to observe the world<br />
of sight and sound.</p>
<p>My gaze falls immediately<br />
on a tree, feathery acacia<br />
fluttering in the breeze,<br />
leaves reaching sideways<br />
in clumps as flat as plates<br />
but moving, rippling.<br />
The tall fronds of the palm beyond it<br />
prance and bow.</p>
<p>And noises resume.<br />
Cars on the road over there<br />
changing speed around the bend.<br />
A man&#8217;s voice talking<br />
as he strolls,<br />
tiny phone cupped to his ear.<br />
The sudden loud tick of my watch.<br />
Anonymous insects buzzing.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Trinath -- I have been looking at your waves, I love this imagery, and find nothing major to impede it&#039;s meaning, but as you asked, I will make some suggestions -- the main thing about them is to maintain your own voice in spite of suggestions  -- as I said earlier, sometimes less is more, so honing the words, cutting back on the verbage I think would improve your poem, but on the other hand, I don&#039;t know what your intention is, so its hard to say. Also, when I play with the poem I am struggeling with the tense, it seems to shift.  


Your Verse:
A roaring sea and a starlit sky
We were there just walking by
The waves go back and forth
Bringing back the memories we hold
Some we love and some we loathe.

Maybe try something like this (you get internal rhyme rather than end stoppedl)

A roaring sea, the sky, starlit
We were just there, walking by
Like the waves, back and forth
etc.


Walking ashore in  shallow waters
We left no trace, no leads

Your verse:
Each time the waves wash the shore
They leave a fresh canvas to dabble with

Suggestion:
Waves washed the shore
Leaving a fresh canvas
We dabble

Anyway, It&#039;s all relative. I just find that by cutting out the non-essential, I have a bolder verse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Trinath &#8212; I have been looking at your waves, I love this imagery, and find nothing major to impede it&#8217;s meaning, but as you asked, I will make some suggestions &#8212; the main thing about them is to maintain your own voice in spite of suggestions  &#8212; as I said earlier, sometimes less is more, so honing the words, cutting back on the verbage I think would improve your poem, but on the other hand, I don&#8217;t know what your intention is, so its hard to say. Also, when I play with the poem I am struggeling with the tense, it seems to shift.  </p>
<p>Your Verse:<br />
A roaring sea and a starlit sky<br />
We were there just walking by<br />
The waves go back and forth<br />
Bringing back the memories we hold<br />
Some we love and some we loathe.</p>
<p>Maybe try something like this (you get internal rhyme rather than end stoppedl)</p>
<p>A roaring sea, the sky, starlit<br />
We were just there, walking by<br />
Like the waves, back and forth<br />
etc.</p>
<p>Walking ashore in  shallow waters<br />
We left no trace, no leads</p>
<p>Your verse:<br />
Each time the waves wash the shore<br />
They leave a fresh canvas to dabble with</p>
<p>Suggestion:<br />
Waves washed the shore<br />
Leaving a fresh canvas<br />
We dabble</p>
<p>Anyway, It&#8217;s all relative. I just find that by cutting out the non-essential, I have a bolder verse.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Nissen-Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Nissen-Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t access Fellner&#039;s &quot;Desperate Calls&quot; and &quot;Epiphanies&quot; - but the very engaging &quot;God in a Box&quot; is enough to show me what you mean - and the interview is wonderful. I&#039;m going to recommend it to other writers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t access Fellner&#8217;s &#8220;Desperate Calls&#8221; and &#8220;Epiphanies&#8221; &#8211; but the very engaging &#8220;God in a Box&#8221; is enough to show me what you mean &#8211; and the interview is wonderful. I&#8217;m going to recommend it to other writers!</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Nissen-Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Nissen-Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Trinath, I think you would find you learn heaps by doing the daily assignments for &quot;30 poems in 30 days&quot;. They are so varied, addressing different aspects of the craft, that just the doing is instructive; also people would probably be moved to comment on those efforts.

John&#039;s suggestion about reviewing old work was, I think, really meant for us to go back over our own work and notice what that tells us about our development, and to do so at the halfway mark of our &quot;30 days&quot; project. You could start now; there is no rule about all starting at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Trinath, I think you would find you learn heaps by doing the daily assignments for &#8220;30 poems in 30 days&#8221;. They are so varied, addressing different aspects of the craft, that just the doing is instructive; also people would probably be moved to comment on those efforts.</p>
<p>John&#8217;s suggestion about reviewing old work was, I think, really meant for us to go back over our own work and notice what that tells us about our development, and to do so at the halfway mark of our &#8220;30 days&#8221; project. You could start now; there is no rule about all starting at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Rosemary and cerebralmum for your suggestions. Yes Rosemary I agree that sticking to rhyme will make us less free. And thanks once again.Here is another poem of mine for peer review....

          Pharaoh&#039;s Dream
         ------------------
Sitting high and powerful, defiant and condescending 
Is the chosen one, the pharaoh.
The absolute, the ruler from heaven; as the world calls 
And obediently at his feet it falls

He dreamt for a mark of his glory 
A one of its kind, magnificent and grand 
A monument to mark his rule of this land 

Years and Years of toiling in the desert sun 
Realizing someone else&#039;s dream 
They remained occupied
Until one day when the glory was out of its hide

It looked sturdy and magnificent
Built With their flesh and blood
The symbol of glory would sure leave a mark 
Just different one in each heart

The active years of their lives spent 
They had no emotions to vent 
The unsung heroes never again thought 
What havoc to them, the pharaoh’s dream has brought 

Realizing they wont be remembered for long 
They lived along singing the glory 
Forgetting the mark it made 
And waiting for the wounds to fade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Rosemary and cerebralmum for your suggestions. Yes Rosemary I agree that sticking to rhyme will make us less free. And thanks once again.Here is another poem of mine for peer review&#8230;.</p>
<p>          Pharaoh&#8217;s Dream<br />
         &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Sitting high and powerful, defiant and condescending<br />
Is the chosen one, the pharaoh.<br />
The absolute, the ruler from heaven; as the world calls<br />
And obediently at his feet it falls</p>
<p>He dreamt for a mark of his glory<br />
A one of its kind, magnificent and grand<br />
A monument to mark his rule of this land </p>
<p>Years and Years of toiling in the desert sun<br />
Realizing someone else&#8217;s dream<br />
They remained occupied<br />
Until one day when the glory was out of its hide</p>
<p>It looked sturdy and magnificent<br />
Built With their flesh and blood<br />
The symbol of glory would sure leave a mark<br />
Just different one in each heart</p>
<p>The active years of their lives spent<br />
They had no emotions to vent<br />
The unsung heroes never again thought<br />
What havoc to them, the pharaoh’s dream has brought </p>
<p>Realizing they wont be remembered for long<br />
They lived along singing the glory<br />
Forgetting the mark it made<br />
And waiting for the wounds to fade.</p>
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